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Hmm.

I just read this article by el Gato Malo (I HIGHLY recommend his SubStack … It is very secular, very much focused on “current events,” as they say, but it is very rare that I disagree with his takes on things, and he has a very engaging writing style). The whole article is great IMO especially if you are looking for some reasoned positivity and optimism about this dark-seeming world … The reason I’m posting it here, however, is that, while reading his description of the confirmation bias situation, I immediately thought of your experience with the other males after you started working out.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/weaponizing-confirmation-bias

I’m not saying you are wrong, or that they WEREN’T intimidated by you … But is it possible that something like what he describes here led to the discord that you experienced? (Ie, you thought, perhaps subconsciously, that they might view you in a negative light once you had larger muscles, which led to subconscious signals that they picked up on, which led to more subconscious behavioral adjustments on their part, etc., etc.?)

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Wow.

This is so totally interesting to me for so many reasons. I didn't even realize that you had a fitness 'blog as well. Interestingly enough, I was just about to write about bodybuilding (briefly) in my next article. So, funny thing, that "coincidence" (never such a thing).

Beyond that, though, there are a couple of things that really jump out at me about this. Things where our thinking or experiences or what-have-you differ, somewhat, which I try to find as an opportunity to learn different perspectives. This is especially true as you are a male thinker, and I am incarnated as a female on Earth.

I know this is hella long, but if you get a chance, I'd be curious to hear your perspective on this article ... I labored over it all last week, but I'm not honestly sure if I got much useful information across:

https://prometheuslost.substack.com/p/the-homunculus-of-you

There is a lot about what you just wrote here that puts me in mind of these ideas, however, but man are they slippery ideas ... Let me see if I can pinpoint it. I might just be rambling.

The first thing that struck me was the fact that other males seemed to react so poorly to your appearance. I guess I'm not so much surprised at that aspect, *really* -- people, both male and female, get intimidated by perceived physical su-periority. (I didn't type the word that way, but it appeared like that somehow; this fascinates me, and might have meaning, so I'm leaving it.) I think I am more surprised at the fact that you cared about this. This isn't a judgement, mind you ... See, I have spent most of my life as someone who looks ... "Different," in ways that could be considered "intimidating." I've never cared to blend in. For most of my academic career, I dressed in what could be called kind of an "alt-punk" look of sorts (leather jacket etc). This is just how I liked to dress (still do sorta kinda though with a lot less give-a-fuck about it now). I always sorta figured that, if someone irrevocably judged me based on my appearance, that person wasn't someone whom I wanted to be friends with.

I remember how, in vet school, someone who DID wind up becoming a very good friend (though we've long lost contact now) told me that she did just that. She said to me that she first saw me and thought, "Oh, we cannot be friends." She assumed that I would be standoffish or mean or rude -- something -- which I wasn't. As soon as she realized that I was not what she had assumed, we became good friends. We thought that was kinda neat. So, I guess it just surprises me that you were put-off by the others' responses.

It also REALLY surprises me to learn that the sort of female you were attracted to, intellectually speaking, was put-off by a more muscular appearance. I can understand and see why you might have attracted superficial women by sporting a socially "competitive" body ... The converse surprises me a little bit, though. I dunno. Maybe not, maybe it shouldn't ... Either way, it is interesting. May I ask how you came to ascertain that this was happening?

There's a doctoral dissertation to be had here, heh. Last thing, since this is getting way long: about your last point, that is something about which we are fundamentally built differently. I am highly motivated by aesthetics, and this is something that I have had to come to terms with about myself, and even forgive myself for, if you will, because in modern Human society, where I currently reside, being aesthetically motivated *IS* seen as being "superficial." However, there are many things that, to me, NEED to "look right" or else, I would not want them. Vehicles, obviously, are a necessity (for most, anyway), and the performance generally beats out the aesthetics, but all things being equal, I'd rather a pretty vehicle than an ugly one. I place great emphasis on the aesthetic qualities of the animals that I breed, though of course, absent great temperament and good health, aesthetics are meaningless. (I COULD even argue, to play Devil's advocate a hair, that the shift towards functionality without regard to aesthetics is indicative of the gradual enshittification of society. Architecture is one of the most key examples. Vehicle design really is another one. All things being equal, why NOT make cars look cool, too?)

Now, again, I am not saying that my way of looking at things here is the superior one. It's not. Just different. Interesting.

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